[00:00:00] Speaker A: You know, we bought packages and presents, and my mother would wrap them. She was a perfectionist. Those packages were wrapped absolutely perfectly of the ribbons, the bows.
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[00:02:20] Speaker D: So, tell me, we haven't really talked about school at all. Did you. Was there kindergarten when you went to.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: School, or did you.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: There was a kindergarten.
[00:02:28] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:02:29] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:02:29] Speaker D: So did you start there and then? Oh, yes, and then.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: And because of my birth date, December 29.
[00:02:35] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: In those days, you had to be six years old by December 31.
[00:02:46] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: To start school that year.
[00:02:48] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: See? Well, I was six, but only by two days, right. See? So I was the youngest in my class by quite some.
In some cases almost a year, right. Cause some of the kids had turned six right after the first part of the year, and then twelve months later, I turned six.
[00:03:12] Speaker D: Right.
[00:03:13] Speaker A: See? So I was always the youngest one in my class, and so I was that really wasn't so much a handicap for me, but it was. Looking back on it now, I suppose it did create some sort of an issue for me, because some of the boys were much more physically developed than I.
But at any rate, then academically, from kindergarten, of course, it was into first grade, and I was very blessed. I had wonderful teachers, and I was always able to establish a close personal relationship with my teachers. They liked me. In fact, one of them said to me at one point, she said, tommy, you are a mystery to me. She said, I know what an awful kid you are.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Sorry.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
But I really like you.
[00:04:16] Speaker D: Tell me about this. What's this awful kid? Were you getting in trouble? Were you causing mischief?
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Not in school.
[00:04:22] Speaker D: Oh.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: Although I did do some things in science class. We did the experiment where you put some kind of a piece of metal or something and a glass of sulfuric acid and put out a rotten egg smell.
And I thought, hmm, that looks very interesting to me.
So I borrowed the necessary ingredients down into the basement of the school to the furnace room, and climbed up on a ladder and put this in the main air vent that went all the way through the school.
[00:05:12] Speaker D: You were naughty.
You didn't. You weren't like, let's see, how can I distribute this, you know, in a room or an area? You were like, let's get it. So it's through the whole school?
[00:05:25] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:05:27] Speaker D: See, I'm wondering, all those times you were walking, I meant to ask you this. You know, you said you walked for lunch and walked for this, and you had your thoughts. I mean, it wasn't like you had a cell phone to be, you know, pumping things into your head. You would have been thinking, and I think that that might have caused you some trouble.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: It did, because I thought about a lot of things that were of interest to me. I was always interested in current events.
My parents subscribed to Life magazine and Time magazine, and I just devoured those. Reader Digest. I just devoured those when I came and I listened to the news. And so I was always keenly interested in things that my classmates.
[00:06:18] Speaker D: Yeah, when you say you listen to the news, that was on the radio.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: Radio, yeah. Yeah. Then later on, when tv became available, because of being down in that bowl up there where Deadwood is, there was no tv signal.
[00:06:36] Speaker D: Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: But my dad wanted a tv, so he bought a tv anyway.
[00:06:43] Speaker D: And so is that the only thing you could watch is by getting the signal? Or was there, because there wouldn't have been, like, movies yet and VCR's no, no. So.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: So we needed. We needed a signal coming from Rapid City. See?
[00:06:54] Speaker D: Okay. Okay.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: And, of course, it really wasn't available, but we were up high enough on the hill that when we turned our tv on to kota, 98% snow.
But there was something.
You could get a very vague idea that something was happening there. You could see movement and you had some audio.
[00:07:27] Speaker D: Oh, okay.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So. But not really enough to be able to exactly hear what was going on. But anyway, we had a tv and we watched that tv.
And the way we did it was on the ground floor of our house.
This was the dining room, and over here was the living room and the tv set on the wall way over here. And at this end of the dining room was a doorway and went into my parents bedroom. And against the wall in here was a large mirror. So I discovered that by peeking your head around the doorway, looking into my parents bedroom, looking into that mirror, could see the tv in the living room reflected. See? So it was like the tv was actually sitting twice as far away from you as it really was.
And then you could make out interesting, very, very dim features. But you could really. You could. You could. You knew you were watching something. So we watched the, I think, 1953 or 1954 World Series. Wow.
By standing in the doorway there and watching it in the mirror and playing it on the radio.
[00:08:53] Speaker D: Wow. That's fascinating. I love that.
[00:08:56] Speaker A: So we thought we watched the games, right?
[00:08:59] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh.
[00:09:02] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:09:04] Speaker D: Do you remember any punishments that you got for some of your shenanigans or, you know, what kind of things came of your ideas, you know, Molly and.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: You know, on the one level, this was how blessed I was.
Nothing drastic ever happened.
[00:09:30] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:09:32] Speaker A: I deserved drastic in double proportions, but nothing drastic ever happened.
So I never experienced.
Oh, I got a good lecture, you know, but usually it was by an adult who was having a hard time not laughing.
[00:09:59] Speaker D: You were just a little too likable to get punished. This is a problem. This is. This is what led you to your naughtiness.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: And they never did nail the sulfuric gas on me. Oh, highly suspicious, but they never did.
[00:10:16] Speaker D: Now, have you ever. Would that have been something. There wouldn't have been, like, a school newspaper or something that would have reported that, would there?
[00:10:22] Speaker A: No.
[00:10:23] Speaker D: Dang it. Yeah, it'd be awesome if we could find something that said, you know, there was this mystery.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyway, the school had to dismiss.
[00:10:29] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh. Oh, you were naughty. Oh, my gosh.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: From k through twelve, they all had.
[00:10:35] Speaker D: To go home because the whole thing stunks.
[00:10:36] Speaker A: Oh, yes.
[00:10:37] Speaker D: Oh, I bet that would have been putrid.
[00:10:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it was awful.
[00:10:40] Speaker D: So you got rewarded instead of punished.
[00:10:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:44] Speaker D: I think we're starting to see a pattern.
Oh, my gosh. Okay, well, so one other question I have is how did you keep in touch with people? You know, I think we really take for granted our phones, our text, our constant communication with people, and the speed in which it can happen, even sending video messages to each other now, you know? And so I'm just curious about ways that you kept in touch and what that looked like.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Sure. Well, we always had a phone.
[00:11:15] Speaker C: Oh, you did?
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Yes. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Dad would have had telephones.
You know, it was a.
Originally it was. You picked up the. Picked up the receiver, and a voice said, number, please.
There were a battery of ladies that worked at the telephone office downtown.
[00:11:39] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:11:40] Speaker A: And they knew everything that was going on in Deadwood.
[00:11:43] Speaker D: Oh, sure. Gosh. I'm sure.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:11:45] Speaker D: So did you call them for your information, too?
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Well, there was an information line, but we didn't use it because it was, you know, you had to ask a friend for your information, otherwise it would be all over everywhere. But.
So telephones were always.
I never knew a life without a telephone.
[00:12:10] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:12:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:11] Speaker D: I mean, it's so fascinating because, you know, I think I just am so used to talking. So many people in your generation that lived out on a farm or a homestead, and, you know, the lines weren't ran or. And so they didn't have phones, you know, and so it's just, you're the first person I've really gotten to talk to about this that had a phone because you lived in town.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, um.
You know, again, we didn't realize that everybody didn't have these things.
[00:12:43] Speaker D: Right, right.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: Everybody didn't have electricity even.
[00:12:46] Speaker D: They didn't even have running water.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: You know, rural electricity didn't come out here till around 1950 or a little later than that in many places.
[00:12:56] Speaker D: Right. Yeah. Huh. I never even thought about that.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:00] Speaker D: You had a lot of friends that lived then in town, and so you could just call them.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: Yeah, just call.
[00:13:05] Speaker D: Wow. What about your family? Like, in California, did you guys talk on the phone, or was it very expensive?
[00:13:11] Speaker A: Once in a while.
[00:13:12] Speaker D: But long distance was expensive. Yeah, very expensive.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: Here's a charge for every call.
[00:13:18] Speaker D: So I feel like it was by the minute to.
[00:13:20] Speaker A: Usually it was by the minute. Yeah, yeah. Of course, that was a part of the phone business until. Oh, yeah. That stayed in my life. I was a part of my life for a long long time.
[00:13:31] Speaker D: Right, right.
I remember long distance plans and, oh, you know, this plan or that plan and long distance included. And I think, you know, some of the young kids today wouldn't even. They'd be like, what?
[00:13:43] Speaker A: You know, they can't imagine, you know?
[00:13:45] Speaker D: Right, right. Like, they wouldn't even. It would be hard for them to even think about the fact that calling one phone number versus another could have a different car charge if it wasn't outside of the country or something.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, calling grandma and Grandpa out in California was a huge deal. You know, my mother would talk and she would tell us what they said, and do we want to say hello to grandma? Yeah. So we'd say hello to grandma, but she had her eye on the clock, you know.
[00:14:19] Speaker D: Right.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: And of course, we were paying a fee for the call, and so was my grandparents.
[00:14:25] Speaker D: Right, right.
[00:14:25] Speaker A: Paying a fee for the call. Yeah.
[00:14:28] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
All right. What about holidays? You know, how. How did you celebrate some holidays? How do you celebrate them? Maybe differently? Which ones do you keep the same? You know, what. What are some of those traditions?
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Sure. Yeah. Christmas was a huge thing for my parents, particularly my dad.
And he grew up very poor, but when he got older, you know, the business was successful and he had some. Some spendable income.
My parents did Christmas big, big, big time.
Oh, boy.
You know, we bought packages and presents, and my mother would wrap them. She was a perfectionist. Packages were wrapped absolutely perfectly of the ribbons, the bows, everything about them, you know, I mean, they were just picture perfect.
And then, of course, we sent off.
We had relatives in California, we had relatives in Montana, and then those relatives moved to Oregon and every year, and we bought presents for everybody in that family, and they bought presents for everybody in our family.
[00:15:54] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: So we sent out big boxes of presents, you know, I suppose around Thanksgiving or sometime like that in hopes that they would get there at Christmas time, but they did the same.
So we did that kind of thing a lot.
My mother baked and baked and baked and baked goodies at Christmas time. Just. Oh, my. She baked for everybody that she knew. We delivered packages of baked goods and sweet goodies of all sorts to folks all over. All over everywhere. And, you know, she made.
She made apple Santa clauses for my class when I was a kid in lower grade school, you know, every year. And they were very elaborate and all beautiful.
[00:16:46] Speaker D: And so they were apples decorated to look like santas.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah. With marshmallows and cranberries and cloves and.
Yeah.
[00:16:56] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
But those came as a tradition you know?
[00:17:00] Speaker D: Yeah. Right, right.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:02] Speaker D: Huh. So do you decorating, like, in the house and stuff?
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
My father and I would go out into the woods and get a Christmas tree every year.
[00:17:16] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: And my mother would say when we left, not too big.
And every year it was the same. Every year we would hunt and hunt and hunt and hunt, and he would finally see the tree that was perfect, and he would cut it and bring it home, and it wouldn't even go through the front door.
[00:17:36] Speaker D: I was worried. Cause you said your dad was the big Christmas guy.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: Usually by the time we would trim it, just barely enough to push it through that door and then on into the living room.
Then when it got decorated and everything, it took up half the room.
[00:17:57] Speaker D: Right.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: Just the tree itself. And it was that way every single year.
Oh, I thought we weren't going to do that this year. Well, you didn't look that big out.
[00:18:11] Speaker D: Right. I was going to say, yeah, they don't look as big when there isn't a house around them.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
And of course, we had some adventures. One year, we went up to Tintin to get a tree in the wintertime in those days, and got stuck up there, and. Oh, my. Had an awful time. Awful, awful, awful.
But finally got home with the tree, and of course, it was way too big.
And then decorating the tree again, my mother was fastidious.
We used lead tinsel in those days and one strand between every needle on every branch.
[00:19:01] Speaker D: Oh, my word. When did you start decorating?
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Several days before.
And then, of course, my brother and I would wait till she was out of the room and then throw.
Of course, she read our. Spotted that.
That didn't fit.
[00:19:26] Speaker D: Oh, that's funny.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: And lights and. Oh, my. It was.
It was.
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[00:19:59] Speaker D: This one's gonna be. This one's gonna be a little bit bigger, especially for you. What role did religion play in your life?
[00:20:08] Speaker A: It was clear from early on that it was not a factor in my dad's life at all, but it wasn't my mother's life. And at least to the degree that we attended church, and I never saw her outside of church. I never saw her do anything or say anything that I thought was the result of attending church.
I never saw her read her Bible.
We had 16 bibles in the house.
I never saw her do that.
We didn't pray.
We didn't pray at mealtime, anything like that.
But we went to church. She and I did, see, and he had the station opened seven days a week, 365 days a year, except for Christmas.
Christmas he stayed closed. Thanksgiving he would open for a half a day.
But other than that, we didn't talk about religious things.
She was active. She was a Sunday school teacher, belonged to the women's organization.
Very active.
But there was no outward.
She was not a teetotaler, but she seldom got drunk.
But there were an occasional instance where she had too much to drink. But hardly ever. Hardly ever.
And it was a.
She made sure that I was in church every single Sunday. I belonged to youth group, attended regularly.
And I would have had my tongue cut out before I would have ever said to her, mom, why?
Why do we go to church?
We just did.
[00:22:57] Speaker D: Right, right. And you just kind of knew.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: No question, those things.
[00:23:00] Speaker D: Right.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: You know, it was the way it was.
And the question why you learned early on, that was a bad question to ask.
Because I don't. I want it that way, basically because I said, you know, you learn quickly. No, if they say it, it's a done deal.
[00:23:24] Speaker D: And that's just what you do. Yeah.
[00:23:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:28] Speaker D: And in exchange, you got fed and clothed and had a home.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: And, yes, an added thing to that, to the Christmas thing, Molly was at our station.
There was always alcohol, okay?
But particularly at Christmas time.
My father would put out a whole table of alcohol, and this became a tradition at Martin Sinclair.
Customers would come in on Christmas Eve day and he would fix them a drink, and there would probably be a snack of some sort there, and they would stand around, chat and visit and have a drink or two or whatever it might be. And every single year when he left for work on Christmas Eve morning, my mother would say, now, Al, remember, don't drink.
Not today. Don't drink. Okay, I won't.
And every single Christmas Eve, by the time he came home that evening, he would be inebriated.
And my mother would be furious. Oh, she was so angry with him. So angry.
And about the best he could do was make his way into the living room, sit down in his chair and fall asleep.
And then about nine or ten, he would wake up. Then she would be in there and saying, al, how are you feeling? Do you need anything? Can I get you anything?
What would you like to have?
And she'd be attentive to him and apologizing. Because she had been so angry with him every single Christmas as long as I could remember.
[00:25:26] Speaker D: It's almost something you want to rely on.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: It went that way without fail.
[00:25:32] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: No, don't drink tonight. No drink today. No, I won't.
You did. You're drunk.
Anger, you know, and frustration. And then later on, apologize.
[00:25:46] Speaker D: And when you started putting that together, what did you think of what, you know, what thought process was going through your mind?
[00:25:55] Speaker A: That's an excellent question, Molly.
It truly is an excellent question. And I think maybe the best I can tell you, I've not spent a lot of time trying to analyze my childhood and the effect that that had on me, other than the fact that I'm still alive.
And I can tell you endless times when I could have been dead.
But, you know, there's a passage in ecclesiastes that says, there's a time for everything. A time to be born and a time to die.
You know, the birds sang a beautiful song about that, but my life is really a display of that exact same thing. And I've come to know that it means exactly what it says, you know, because I have lived so much of my life closely exposed to the most intimate parts of other people's lives, including my own, of birth and death and endless examples of there's a time to be born, and you can't be born and won't be born until that time comes. And when that time comes, you will be born, and that's that. And that's that.
And at the other end, the same thing happens.
There's a time when our life on this earth is over. It just is. And until that time comes, we literally can't die.
You know my best example of this? I got a call in the middle of the night.
An old friend from up at Ken crook. I used to preach up there, was in the emergency room in Spearfish. And the nurse said she wanted me to call you. She said she's dying, but wanted me to call you and let you know. So I jumped in the car and headed for spearfish.
Wondered whether I'd get there in time.
When I went in, they had her on a cart in a darkened room.
And they had quit working on her, you know.
And the doctor said, she's just any moment now, right? So, went in, and she had her eyes closed, and I said, hi, sweetheart. How are you doing?
Eyes popped open.
She looked at me, and she grinned, and she said, they think I'm dying, but I'm not.
And she didn't have. And she didn't die, then she died.
[00:29:00] Speaker D: That's fabulous.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: You know, she died a year or two later, something, but not then, right?
[00:29:06] Speaker D: Huh. That's fabulous.
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[00:29:32] Speaker D: You know, you said you're 80 and you've had been a preacher for 53 years, so I guess I just kind of want to know. You said you were in a band and I just kind of wanted to get that little piece in there, you know, when that changed and what that.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Looked like, that area.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: Sure, sure. Well, like I said, I was nominally a part of a church for the early years of my life, but not truly, you see, and we had that service station, and in the service station there is compressed air.
That's how you fill up a tire or, you know, and there are also little devices that you can use to hook to the air hose and push a button and blow off an engine, blow dirt and crud away from an engine, or whatever you needed to clean with compressed air.
You learn pretty quickly that it's also fun.
You can sneak up behind somebody and go like that and it scares them.
[00:30:43] Speaker D: Right.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: See?
So we had a lot of fun with that.
So on an occasion, my father was bent over the fender of a car, the hood was open and he was working on the engine.
And one of the young men that worked for him came up behind him and with that air nozzle, and put that air nozzle on his bottom, it was fully clothed and pressed the button, but he had it tightly up enough, snugly enough up against my dad's fanny that when he pushed that button and it was positioned perfectly so that the burst of compressed air went right up my father's rectum and exploded his intestine and blew up his appendix.
[00:31:47] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: Yes.
Wow. Yeah.
So it was a terrible injury, and I got the call that my dad had had this accident, which I don't believe anything is ever an accident, but anyway, and he was in the hospital, so I went right away and the doctor wasn't sure what to do with him.
So I sat with him for a while and I realized he's in bad shape.
I told the doctor, I said, you have to do something. You have to. He says, yeah, I think you're right. We better go in and see what we can do. So they took him to surgery, and the doctor said, when he made the incision on my dad's abdomen, it was evident immediately that the whole inside of his cavity there was filled with fecal matter and pus and infection. It didn't take very long.
And so he was in really, really bad shape. So they cleaned out as much as they could possibly find to clean out, sewed him back up again. And the doctor said, I don't think he will probably make it through the night, but if he does make it through the night, he said, the next issue will be if we can actually get air through his digestive system and that he can pass air out from his rectum.
So I sat with him that night. I spent all night in his room.
And it was quite, quite an experience because he was seeing things and hallucinating about various things. And I just said, God. You know, I knew my father was very active in eastern Star on a state level. He was the top. Occupied the men's top position for a year.
So he knew people all over the state.
And the word had gone out immediately that Al had been badly injured and was not expected to live. So prayers. Phone calls came with prayers.
I don't have any idea. Dozens of them.
And so when I was sitting in the room, I said, well, God, please keep him alive.
So I sat there all night long. And by morning, when the doctor came to check on him, he was astonished.
He said, I can't believe how good a condition he is.
And I can still remember this.
About mid morning, one of the nurses came running out of his room and said, al just farted.
[00:35:09] Speaker D: That's just the most fabulous thing.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:35:12] Speaker D: I mean, in that situation, hallelujah.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
So, you know, that changed my life.
[00:35:22] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Then I began to realize bit by bit how God had guided me and moved me and brought people into my life and had saved me, literally over and over again when I was in terrible, when I had wrecked myself something awful.
And my pastor, he thought about being a pastor, and I thought, okay, I'm sorry. My dad had to have this experience to get my head where it needed to be.
But that was the pivotal moment in my life.
And from then on, from that moment on, I knew I was to be a pastor.
[00:36:17] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:36:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And so I, you know, I didn't drink anymore.
You know, like I said, I'm not a teetotaler, and I enjoy a glass of wine, but I quit drinking anything beyond just one glass of wine.
And I announced to my friends and my family, and of course, they were they were of one accord. Oh, what are you doing? What are you talking about? You can't do that. You can't do that, right? My band friends said to me, what will we do without you? I said, oh, wait a minute.
I'm not leaving the face of the earth. I'm not moving to California or going to Mars. Yeah, I'll be here. I just won't be here in the capacity that you've always known me, but I'll still be me.
And so that, you know, some of those relationships went on, some of them pretty much stopped.
[00:37:21] Speaker D: Right?
[00:37:22] Speaker A: And of course, I, then I played in the band for a long time after that, but finally, of course, I couldn't play in the band anymore. So, like I said, a good number of those dear hearts no longer are alive. But. So it was a, that, that transition cost my dad dearly, but it was what it took, obviously, for me to realize this is real. This is very much real.
[00:37:52] Speaker D: Right.
[00:37:53] Speaker A: And I need to heed what's going on around me and figure out what's happening here and respond appropriately.
[00:38:01] Speaker D: Right.
[00:38:01] Speaker A: So that's what I've done ever since.
[00:38:03] Speaker D: Wow, that's fascinating story. Huh. So and so your dad made it out of that.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: He did.
[00:38:10] Speaker D: And, huh.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:38:12] Speaker D: To buy too big of Christmas trees.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:16] Speaker D: Or not buy. Excuse me.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: Yeah, cut them down. That's okay.
[00:38:20] Speaker D: That's an awful lot of work. Going to get a tree. I've done it before. It's awful work.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: It is awful work. I wouldn't even consider it these days. Yeah.
[00:38:27] Speaker D: No, no, no.
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